@larsbrubaker Thank you Lars, cope413 was really helping me out with some design issues I was having and I had hoped to keep the link to that post. Up until your reply I was afraid to post anything for fear of getting deleted again, for something I didn't realize I had done. In the future I'll save the really good posts to my computer. It might sound silly, but I really love this program and what it can do. I'm going to re-post my last question about the difference between actual print vs design size because I think there's more going on then just shrinkage. Thanks again.